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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 14:26:41 GMT 12
I propose that the murders took place earlier than we're led to believe, thus giving ample time for the culprit to leave the scene before the discovery of the bodies. The amount time between when the murders took place and when the bodies ceased functioning is technically unknown. It could have been as little as five minutes. I'll let the rest of that statement stand
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Post by animex75 on Sept 24, 2013 14:29:59 GMT 12
It could have been, but it wasn't. Clearly the culprit had enough time to drop off the bodies, put the knife in Eva's hand, and escape all before the bodies were discovered. Since Eva had been drugged, she wouldn't have been able to scream until the drugs wore off, which would likely have taken a while.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 14:38:18 GMT 12
It could have been, but it wasn't. Clearly the culprit had enough time to drop off the bodies, put the knife in Eva's hand, and escape all before the bodies were discovered. Since Eva had been drugged, she wouldn't have been able to scream until the drugs wore off, which would likely have taken a while. Eva passed out in the bathroom. The killer would have had to move her as well but no blood was discovered in the bathroom.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Sept 24, 2013 14:41:40 GMT 12
I'll propose this!
The culprit had an accomplice who moved Eva into the bedroom.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 14:44:33 GMT 12
I'll propose this!
The culprit had an accomplice who moved Eva into the bedroom. There was no accomplice
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Post by animex75 on Sept 24, 2013 15:51:52 GMT 12
It could have been, but it wasn't. Clearly the culprit had enough time to drop off the bodies, put the knife in Eva's hand, and escape all before the bodies were discovered. Since Eva had been drugged, she wouldn't have been able to scream until the drugs wore off, which would likely have taken a while. Eva passed out in the bathroom. The killer would have had to move her as well but no blood was discovered in the bathroom. Not if the culprit moved Eva first and then placed the bodies.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 16:01:54 GMT 12
Eva passed out in the bathroom. The killer would have had to move her as well but no blood was discovered in the bathroom. Not if the culprit moved Eva first and then placed the bodies. Effective
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 17:03:02 GMT 12
Aside from the victims and Eva, Kyrie really was the first to witness the scene. The letter in Gohda's back pocket wasn't actually in his back pocket.
Are you able to confirm whether or not the letter was sealed with Kinzo's ring seal?
Someone aside from the murderer witnessed the murders. One of the keys of the living servants is the key that the murderer unlocked to open the door. Either the victims or Eva were unconscious before the murderer entered. OR Alternatively, the murderer was in the room when the victims or Eva were drugged. The one that unlocked the door did NOT murder anyone.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 17:27:32 GMT 12
Aside from the victims and Eva, Kyrie really was the first to witness the scene. The letter in Gohda's back pocket wasn't actually in his back pocket.Are you able to confirm whether or not the letter was sealed with Kinzo's ring seal? If by that you mean Kyrie was the first in the room when the door was opened then she was the first to witness the sceneIt was never specified which pocket the letter was in.The letter was sealed with Kinzo's ring seal.
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 17:30:00 GMT 12
Apologies. I'm not really sure why I thought it was in his back pocket. Regardless, the letter on Gohda was never actually on his person! The one who committed the murders wrote the letter.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 17:32:32 GMT 12
Someone aside from the murderer witnessed the murders. One of the keys of the living servants is the key that the murderer unlocked to open the door. Either the victims or Eva were unconscious before the murderer entered. OR Alternatively, the murderer was in the room when the victims or Eva were drugged. The one that unlocked the door did NOT murder anyone.
Who would have witnessed the murders?I will not rebut the rest.
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 17:36:45 GMT 12
Confirm me this, Kyrie was the first to enter the room aside from Eva and the Victims. Whoever else witnessed the murderers is aside from the point, what matters is that someone, aside from the murderer, is aware of the killer's identity.
BTW Eva and the Victims is releasing its new album featuring their hit song "Primurderer Girl." and "How to be a Family Killer"
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 17:50:32 GMT 12
Apologies. I'm not really sure why I thought it was in his back pocket. Regardless, the letter on Gohda was never actually on his person! The one who committed the murders wrote the letter. The letter was written by Beatrice Confirm me this, Kyrie was the first to enter the room aside from Eva and the Victims. Whoever else witnessed the murderers is aside from the point, what matters is that someone, aside from the murderer, is aware of the killer's identity.BTW Eva and the Victims is releasing its new album featuring their hit song "Primurderer Girl." and "How to be a Family Killer" I do not think I can do that since that is Battler's abilityThen the only people aside from the killer who know that fact would be the three dead servants unless they were knocked out by other means besides the drugged tea
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 17:58:22 GMT 12
Apologies. I'm not really sure why I thought it was in his back pocket. Regardless, the letter on Gohda was never actually on his person! The one who committed the murders wrote the letter. The letter was written by Beatrice Confirm me this, Kyrie was the first to enter the room aside from Eva and the Victims. Whoever else witnessed the murderers is aside from the point, what matters is that someone, aside from the murderer, is aware of the killer's identity.BTW Eva and the Victims is releasing its new album featuring their hit song "Primurderer Girl." and "How to be a Family Killer" I do not think I can do that since that is Battler's abilityThen the only people aside from the killer who know that fact would be the three dead servants unless they were knocked out by other means besides the drugged tea If the letter is written by Beatrice then someone has assumed the identiy of Beatrice, alternatively, there is someone with more than one personality!
As my statements remain open with no rebuttal then they still stands: Kyrie was the first to enter the room aside from Eva and the victims. The letter found on Gohda wasn't ACTUALLY on Gohda.
It's possible for someone else to have witnessed the murderer if they supplied the killer with the key. Unless of course no-one supplied the killer with the key and the killer either owns the key or there is another key that has been used by the killer. However, if Kyrie is the first to witness the scene, then her alibi must be valid, she was given the key herself or someone opened the door for her.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 18:03:56 GMT 12
The letter was written by Beatrice I do not think I can do that since that is Battler's abilityThen the only people aside from the killer who know that fact would be the three dead servants unless they were knocked out by other means besides the drugged tea If the letter is written by Beatrice then someone has assumed the identiy of Beatrice, alternatively, there is someone with more than one personality!
As my statements remain open with no rebuttal then they still stands: Kyrie was the first to enter the room aside from Eva and the victims. The letter found on Gohda wasn't ACTUALLY on Gohda.
It's possible for someone else to have witnessed the murderer if they supplied the killer with the key. Unless of course no-one supplied the killer with the key and the killer either owns the key or there is another key that has been used by the killer. However, if Kyrie is the first to witness the scene, then her alibi must be valid, she was given the key herself or someone opened the door for her. No one has a split personalityIf the letter wasn't actually on Ghoda then where was it?The killer could have stolen a key from one of the living servants or EvaGhoda unlocked the door for Kyrie.I won't rebut the rest
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 18:15:01 GMT 12
If the letter is written by Beatrice then someone has assumed the identiy of Beatrice, alternatively, there is someone with more than one personality!
As my statements remain open with no rebuttal then they still stands: Kyrie was the first to enter the room aside from Eva and the victims. The letter found on Gohda wasn't ACTUALLY on Gohda.
It's possible for someone else to have witnessed the murderer if they supplied the killer with the key. Unless of course no-one supplied the killer with the key and the killer either owns the key or there is another key that has been used by the killer. However, if Kyrie is the first to witness the scene, then her alibi must be valid, she was given the key herself or someone opened the door for her. No one has a split personalityIf the letter wasn't actually on Ghoda then where was it?The killer could have stolen a key from one of the living servants or EvaGhoda unlocked the door for Kyrie.I won't rebut the rest There is someone holding the title of Beatrice, they wrote the letter. The letter being said to have been found on Gohda was in fact a fabrication, the one who had the letter lied and had the letter on themselves instead. The killer did not unlock the door themselves. Had the killer stolen one of the keys, they would require to replace the key on the respective persons. I.E If the killer stole Eva's key, they would need to put the key back on Eva's person, however, this is impossible as the killer would need a key to ENTER the room and before leaving would need to return the key to Eva's person and somehow locking the door when leaving.One could argue that Eva was able to do this, being on the inside of the room, however Eva was unconscious at this point in time.Stealing a key from a servant and replacing it would be impossible unless someone was lying, if a killer stole a key from either Gohda or Kanon, they would need to return the keys to Kanon and Gohda as they had them at the time of the discovery of the crime scene. If Kyrie is telling the truth then Kanon and Gohda need their keys in order to unlock the door BEFORE the screams were heard as Kyrie ran to the servants in order to acquisition their keys to inspect the source of the screaming.Therefore I can guarantee that the killer did not steal a key from a servant nor Eva.
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 18:36:25 GMT 12
No one has a split personalityIf the letter wasn't actually on Ghoda then where was it?The killer could have stolen a key from one of the living servants or EvaGhoda unlocked the door for Kyrie.I won't rebut the rest There is someone holding the title of Beatrice, they wrote the letter. The letter being said to have been found on Gohda was in fact a fabrication, the one who had the letter lied and had the letter on themselves instead. The killer did not unlock the door themselves. Had the killer stolen one of the keys, they would require to replace the key on the respective persons. I.E If the killer stole Eva's key, they would need to put the key back on Eva's person, however, this is impossible as the killer would need a key to ENTER the room and before leaving would need to return the key to Eva's person and somehow locking the door when leaving.One could argue that Eva was able to do this, being on the inside of the room, however Eva was unconscious at this point in time.Stealing a key from a servant and replacing it would be impossible unless someone was lying, if a killer stole a key from either Gohda or Kanon, they would need to return the keys to Kanon and Gohda as they had them at the time of the discovery of the crime scene. If Kyrie is telling the truth then Kanon and Gohda need their keys in order to unlock the door BEFORE the screams were heard as Kyrie ran to the servants in order to acquisition their keys to inspect the source of the screaming.Therefore I can guarantee that the killer did not steal a key from a servant nor Eva. No one is holding the title of Beatrice So Kanon lied about seeing the letter in Ghoda's pocket? Ghoda and Kanon went with Kyrie to unlock the door If one of them did not have their key with them at the time Kyrie found them then it could have been stolen somehow and then slipped back to them while the investigation was going on while everyone was focused on Eva. Also Eva might not even have had her key with her at the time.
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 18:40:47 GMT 12
There is someone holding the title of Beatrice, they wrote the letter. The letter being said to have been found on Gohda was in fact a fabrication, the one who had the letter lied and had the letter on themselves instead. The killer did not unlock the door themselves. Had the killer stolen one of the keys, they would require to replace the key on the respective persons. I.E If the killer stole Eva's key, they would need to put the key back on Eva's person, however, this is impossible as the killer would need a key to ENTER the room and before leaving would need to return the key to Eva's person and somehow locking the door when leaving.One could argue that Eva was able to do this, being on the inside of the room, however Eva was unconscious at this point in time.Stealing a key from a servant and replacing it would be impossible unless someone was lying, if a killer stole a key from either Gohda or Kanon, they would need to return the keys to Kanon and Gohda as they had them at the time of the discovery of the crime scene. If Kyrie is telling the truth then Kanon and Gohda need their keys in order to unlock the door BEFORE the screams were heard as Kyrie ran to the servants in order to acquisition their keys to inspect the source of the screaming.Therefore I can guarantee that the killer did not steal a key from a servant nor Eva. No one is holding the title of Beatrice So Kanon lied about seeing the letter in Ghoda's pocket? Ghoda and Kanon went with Kyrie to unlock the door If one of them did not have their key with them at the time Kyrie found them then it could have been stolen somehow and then slipped back to them while the investigation was going on while everyone was focused on Eva. Also Eva might not even have had her key with her at the time. Beatrice doesn't exist! How did she write the letter? The one who discovered the letter, lied about its location! Gohda and Kanon needed their keys to unlock the door! The key needs to be returned before it is used!
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Post by Ebilkitty on Sept 24, 2013 18:42:45 GMT 12
It was already stated that Ghoda unlocked the door for Kyrie. The letter's sudden appearance can't really be explained then unless it had been found earlier and not brought up until everyone got to the parlor Meta Phase 1 End
Theories were thrown around, the GM made a few newbie mistakes but all in all it was a crazy meta phase
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Post by Cloud on Sept 24, 2013 18:44:18 GMT 12
"Ah! I completely forgot to ask! Eba-Obasan! Did you get a key for your room desu ka?" Jessica points at Eva quickly and asks with urgency.
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