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Post by animex75 on Oct 12, 2017 14:01:09 GMT 12
"Indeed. I did say that I intended to save your death for last, so I was not expecting to end you so soon! However, Jessica may very well have not had the key during the entire time she spent dressed as Shannon. Either that, or the door was ordered left open to save time as Jessica would have had no way of knowing for sure how much time she had to move the bodies. As for the gun issue, it was later stated in red that the culprit had a gun: when Rudolf, Kyrie, and Kanon disappeared, the following meta phase established the victims had been led by gunpoint, and that Rudolf and Kyrie had been shot; earlier, it had been determined that Krauss was shot following the struggle he had with the culprit. All of this suggests that either the killer had brought more than one gun with them, returning the one used to kill Gohda afterwards, or they had found a gun elsewhere! Jessica did not need to enter the guest house, the tea had been poisoned earlier, most likely while she was in the kitchen; alternatively, she found the time to poison it after it had been brought outside. I will barely even dignify the theory that Jessica could disguise herself as Kanon with a rebuttal. There is no way someone could mistake her for Kanon. Kanon is male, Jessica isn't. Jessica's...assets would have been easily visible, no matter what attempted bindings she used."
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 12, 2017 14:17:43 GMT 12
Kinzo coughs in embarassment. "Quite. It seems in the heat of the moment, I misspoke. Let me instead suggest Jessica might have disguised herself as Shannon to run away with Kanon.
Next, due to the fire, no one thought to bring anything from the mansions' kitchen with them. So, the tea came from the guest house.
And good, I hoped you would be sharp enough not to be thrown off by something so simple; You are correct that there was more than one gun.
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Post by Segaco on Oct 12, 2017 21:00:39 GMT 12
Before the tea was taken outside the guest house, it had been there for the entire game.
The tea was next to an open window, so the culprit put poison from there.
There is more than one bomb.
The culprit set off the bomb willingly.
No one has ever pointed a gun at the culprit.
Oh, and I almost forget: The master of the house is the culprit.
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Post by Zeus wiz of misfortune on Oct 12, 2017 23:41:17 GMT 12
- Putting the gun back in the study was an easy task for Jessica because the door was never locked! similar to The waiting room Eva only ever asked for the door to be opened and never attempted to do so herself.
- Or alternatively Jessica had the key hidden on her somewhere other than her Pockets such as in her brassiere.
if Kinzo was alive he would have needed to escape the fire.
- At his age Kinzo could not have survived a jump from his studies window to escape the fire.
- Kinzo could not have escaped through the stairs because Eva was trying to put up fire in that location.
- By the time Eva went to the kitchen the smoke on the second and third floors would have become severe enough as to prevent a man of kinzo's age from escaping.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 4:16:33 GMT 12
Before the tea was taken outside the guest house, it had been there for the entire game.The tea was next to an open window, so the culprit put poison from there.There is more than one bomb.The culprit set off the bomb willingly.No one has ever pointed a gun at the culprit.Oh, and I almost forget: The master of the house is the culprit. Before the tea was taken outside the guest house, it had been there for the entire game.
The tea was not poisoned through an open window.
As there is only one trigger, there is only one bomb.
The culprit set the bomb willingly.
No one has ever pointed a gun at the culprit.And yes, The master of the house is indeed the culprit.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 4:21:38 GMT 12
- Putting the gun back in the study was an easy task for Jessica because the door was never locked! similar to The waiting room Eva only ever asked for the door to be opened and never attempted to do so herself.
- Or alternatively Jessica had the key hidden on her somewhere other than her Pockets such as in her brassiere.if Kinzo was alive he would have needed to escape the fire. - At his age Kinzo could not have survived a jump from his studies window to escape the fire.
- Kinzo could not have escaped through the stairs because Eva was trying to put up fire in that location.
- By the time Eva went to the kitchen the smoke on the second and third floors would have become severe enough as to prevent a man of kinzo's age from escaping. Eva herself checked the study door! It was indeed locked every time she checked it!
Indeed. The culprit has no reason or obligation to show the detective everything they hold.That is some solid reasoning! However, it all falls apart if Kinzo wasn't in the study when the fire started.
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 4:28:12 GMT 12
Rudolf's corpse was not moved. Kyrie's corpse was not moved. Kanon's corpse was not moved.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 4:38:21 GMT 12
Rudolf's corpse was not moved. Kyrie's corpse was not moved. Kanon's corpse was not moved. Rudolf, Kyrie, and Kanon were not moved by a human after they died. (One or more may have been moved by the explosion)
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 6:09:18 GMT 12
There were 4 corpses in the boiler.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 6:13:50 GMT 12
There were 4 corpses in the boiler. No corpses were in the boiler.
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 7:13:28 GMT 12
When the fire started, Kinzo was in the mansion.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 7:18:34 GMT 12
When the fire started, Kinzo was in the mansion.
Kinzo was not in the mansion when the fire started. He came back to take care of some more twilights, though.
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 7:28:53 GMT 12
When the fire started, Kinzo was in the chapel. When the fire started, Kinzo was underground.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 8:29:00 GMT 12
When the fire started, Kinzo was in the chapel. When the fire started, Kinzo was underground. ... Very well When the fire started, Kinzo was in the chapel
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Post by animex75 on Oct 13, 2017 8:42:42 GMT 12
"How about this, Kinzo? Jessica was the first piece to solve the epitaph. We all know why you wrote that riddle in the first place, but we may as well make it official here for the record: the epitaph was created by Kinzo Ushiromiya as a challenge, the objective of which is to determine a worthy successor. Eva solved the epitaph, but was not the first piece to do so. The culprit is the Master of the House, and the first person who solves the epitaph becomes the heir, regardless of previous rank. Thus the first person to solve the epitaph gains the title "Master of the House". So, as the author of the epitaph, Kinzo has no need to "solve" it in any sense of the word because he would already have this title! Also, as Kinzo cannot be his own heir, the first piece to solve the epitaph, the killer, became the heir to Kinzo! While I'm at it, why not bring up Krauss and his embezzlement? Surely, if Kinzo was alive, you would not allow your son to steal your fortune to invest in the myriad of obvious scams Eva found documentation for! His own money, maybe even his own portion of the inheritance, but not your personal fortune! He was truly unworthy of your name, your titles, and your fortune, so if Kinzo Ushiromiya was alive, Krauss would never have been able to pull off such a scheme!"
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 9:11:08 GMT 12
After being stabbed, Krauss tried to run away.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 9:14:24 GMT 12
(Yep, that'd do it. Can't think of a way out of that one)
This time, the myriad of red and blue shatter Kinzo; yet when it clears, he still stands there. Behind him, however, is now, the named culprit.
"N-no! But-" Jessica looks around, and then in fear at the gathered watchers. "Why-" she begins, but Kinzo holds out his hand to stop her.
"What's done is done." Kinzo says. He looks across the room at the cloaked figure. "As you are acting as patron Eva, I trust you will have no objections to me doing the same for this child?
"You are correct in that, Jessica was the first person to solve my epitaph, and thus earned the title of my heir and the Master of the House. She is my successor. As for Krauss, you are correct he was unworthy. Yet, I wonder if I might have allowed things to go on as they were until he had thoroughly ruined everything. I'd long since set everything up that way. It's not as if I would have much longer to live, and my true interests had long since shifted from business to other ventures. The truth is, the prize of the title of my successor is as much if not more mocking those fools who would fight over it than the reward for solving my epitaph."
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Post by Yarn Witch on Oct 13, 2017 9:15:12 GMT 12
After being stabbed, Krauss tried to run away. Krauss most certainly did not try and run away after he was stabbed.
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 9:19:40 GMT 12
Krauss was shot right after being stabbed.
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Post by Segaco on Oct 13, 2017 9:23:22 GMT 12
(oops i already said that) After being stabbed, Krauss did not move from where he was. After stabbing Krauss, the culprit ran away and shot him from the distance.
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