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Post by Epilos303 on Nov 12, 2013 20:09:21 GMT 12
Battler screams in desperation.
"Its possible the detective was outside the mansion during the murder!"
"Maybe the detective is deaf and can't hear anything. He spends the whole story reading lips instead!"
"Maybe the gun is silenced. There was no gunshot noise!"
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Post by Cloud on Nov 12, 2013 20:12:08 GMT 12
Battler screams in desperation. "Its possible the detective was outside the mansion during the murder!"
"Maybe the detective is deaf and can't hear anything. He spends the whole story reading lips instead!"
"Maybe the gun is silenced. There was no gunshot noise!" The detective was inside. The detective heard gunshots.
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Post by Epilos303 on Nov 12, 2013 20:17:26 GMT 12
Then maybe people did hear the gunshots. They either pretended not to or just ignored it.
Maybe they just didn't tell the detective.
You're red wedge stopping my Eva theory is breaking.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 12, 2013 20:20:21 GMT 12
Then maybe people did hear the gunshots. They either pretended not to or just ignored it.
Maybe they just didn't tell the detective.You're red wedge stopping my Eva theory is breaking. No one would have ignored nor pretended not to hear a gunshot.
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Post by Epilos303 on Nov 12, 2013 20:26:54 GMT 12
Dropping the gunshot issue (see chat for why).
Eva is the Red Beatrice and killed the husbands and cousins!
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Post by Cloud on Nov 12, 2013 20:29:01 GMT 12
Dropping the gunshot issue (see chat for why). Eva is the Red Beatrice and killed the husbands and cousins! Did you not see Ebil's alibi? Eva was in bed during the first twilight. The killer of the cousins is the killer of the men. If Eva didn't kill the cousins then I can guarantee that Eva did not kill the men.
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Post by Epilos303 on Nov 12, 2013 20:32:34 GMT 12
Wasn't the room door blocked by a bed.
Maybe Eva was in that bed during the killing of the cousins. That way , that red isn't violated.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 12, 2013 20:34:04 GMT 12
Wasn't the room door blocked by a bed. Maybe Eva was in that bed during the killing of the cousins. That way , that red isn't violated. Eva didn't kill the cousins.
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Post by Epilos303 on Nov 12, 2013 20:36:00 GMT 12
Was Eva's body involved? Maybe she had a second personality that killed the cousins.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 12, 2013 20:37:42 GMT 12
Was Eva's body involved? Maybe she had a second personality that killed the cousins. Eva's body did not kill the cousins.
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Post by Epilos303 on Nov 12, 2013 20:40:54 GMT 12
This theory can be modified to use Kumasawa, Rosa, or Kyrie instead of Eva. All of them could have done it instead.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 12, 2013 20:50:16 GMT 12
Accepted.
Now. The deaths of the servants and Kyrie are the next agendas.
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Post by animex75 on Nov 13, 2013 3:36:26 GMT 12
Your red does not contradict my statement as I am saying she left the group AFTER her an the other three found "Shannon", or perhaps beforehand while Kyrie and Battler were trying to find Eva. Then explain how no-one heard any gunshots. Simple, really. If the men weren't dead when they were found or that scene never happened (as Epilos said, the detective was not around for the scene, so we have no guarantee that it ever happened), the culprit could have easily slipped away from the group when Eva was opening the vault or any time after they left the mansion and used the noise from the typhoon as a cover.
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Post by animex75 on Nov 13, 2013 3:40:07 GMT 12
Accepted. Now. The deaths of the servants and Kyrie are the next agendas. Eva killed Kyrie when she was supposedly alone in that bedroom, where she supposedly saw Natsuhi.
The servants were also killed at this time by Rosa, who saw them coming from the back way. She shot the servants from cover, possibly behind a tree, and Kanon was able to get away before she could reload her gun. After losing Kanon, she returned to the mansion in pursuit and that's when Kyrie was found and Eva produced the story of Natsuhi appearing before her.
"Oh, but what about Ebil's alibi?" I hear you ask. It's simple: Eva was not a culprit at the time we got her alibi, but became one later.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 13, 2013 9:51:28 GMT 12
Then explain how no-one heard any gunshots. Simple, really. If the men weren't dead when they were found or that scene never happened (as Epilos said, the detective was not around for the scene, so we have no guarantee that it ever happened), the culprit could have easily slipped away from the group when Eva was opening the vault or any time after they left the mansion and used the noise from the typhoon as a cover. The men were killed BEFORE the party left for the Guest House (and later, the vault.)
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Post by Cloud on Nov 13, 2013 9:53:17 GMT 12
Accepted. Now. The deaths of the servants and Kyrie are the next agendas. Eva killed Kyrie when she was supposedly alone in that bedroom, where she supposedly saw Natsuhi.
The servants were also killed at this time by Rosa, who saw them coming from the back way. She shot the servants from cover, possibly behind a tree, and Kanon was able to get away before she could reload her gun. After losing Kanon, she returned to the mansion in pursuit and that's when Kyrie was found and Eva produced the story of Natsuhi appearing before her.
"Oh, but what about Ebil's alibi?" I hear you ask. It's simple: Eva was not a culprit at the time we got her alibi, but became one later. Eva did not kill Kyrie. Kyrie was killed where she was found.When did Rosa get away to kill the servants?
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Post by animex75 on Nov 13, 2013 10:10:24 GMT 12
When the group was separated and, in the narrative at least, the women were talking about their children.
KYRIE represents the final culprit, who I believe to be Eva. The Red Witch represents the final victim, Rosa.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 13, 2013 10:12:47 GMT 12
When the group was separated and, in the narrative at least, the women were talking about their children.
KYRIE represents the final culprit, who I believe to be Eva. The Red Witch represents the final victim, Rosa. Accepted. KYRIE does not represent Eva. The Red Witch represents a murderer.
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Post by animex75 on Nov 13, 2013 10:28:12 GMT 12
When the group was separated and, in the narrative at least, the women were talking about their children.
KYRIE represents the final culprit, who I believe to be Eva. The Red Witch represents the final victim, Rosa. Accepted. KYRIE does not represent Eva. The Red Witch represents a murderer. Your red doesn't contradict my blue regarding the Red Witch if Rosa is a culprit. KYRIE represents Battler, who saved Eva from Rosa.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 13, 2013 10:37:25 GMT 12
Accepted. KYRIE does not represent Eva. The Red Witch represents a murderer. Your red doesn't contradict my blue regarding the Red Witch if Rosa is a culprit. KYRIE represents Battler, who saved Eva from Rosa. Battler did not save Eva from Rosa.
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