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Post by animex75 on Sept 20, 2013 16:35:34 GMT 12
Erika nods and turns to face the group. "It was after he escorted me back to the mansion. I went to the study to find something else to use to disprove magic to her when I saw a servant enter the study. I called out to him before the door closed and he let me enter. We weren't alone in there. As I was talking to everyone, that's when it happened....He had grabbed a gun from the case and I heard a loud crack as my vision went black. Erika never said how much time she spent talking to the others. So it is possible for the murders to have occurred after Battler fell asleep. I will not rebut.
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 5:01:41 GMT 12
Uuu~ uuu~, it was Beatrice! She has begun her resurrection ritual! Uuu~ Kehehehehehe, as I said, the resurrection ritual has begun, before the clock strikes 12, Beatrice is going to get all of us! I propose that Maria Ushiromiya is the one with the alternate personality.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 5:03:54 GMT 12
Uuu~ uuu~, it was Beatrice! She has begun her resurrection ritual! Uuu~ Kehehehehehe, as I said, the resurrection ritual has begun, before the clock strikes 12, Beatrice is going to get all of us! I propose that Maria Ushiromiya is the one with the alternate personality. I will not rebut.I will give you a free red as, in hindsight, I don't think I gave sufficient evidence for this. Erika found Kinzo, thus why she was allowed to enter the study. Krauss and Natsuhi planned on keeping her quiet about it.
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 5:09:03 GMT 12
Genji did indeed allow the victims to enter into the study! He holds the sole key, after all!
Genji allowed the victims to enter the study but not the murderer. The murderer came in after the rest of the victims were already inside. The murderer at first was denied entry.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 5:11:53 GMT 12
Genji did indeed allow the victims to enter into the study! He holds the sole key, after all!Genji allowed the victims to enter the study but not the murderer. The murderer came in after the rest of the victims were already inside. The murderer at first was denied entry. Erika was the last person to enter the study before the murders happened. The murderer was not denied entry!
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 5:29:20 GMT 12
From what I am able to gatherfrom the list of red truths, the only people who don't have an alibi other than Battler are George and Kumasawa.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 5:31:20 GMT 12
From what I am able to gatherfrom the list of red truths, the only people who don't have an alibi other than Battler are George and Kumasawa. And which do you believe is responsible for the first twilight?
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 5:51:47 GMT 12
From what I am able to gatherfrom the list of red truths, the only people who don't have an alibi other than Battler are George and Kumasawa. And which do you believe is responsible for the first twilight? I believe George is the Culprit and Kumasawa is the second Culprit through process of elimination.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 5:52:55 GMT 12
Kumasawa never hurt anyone!
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 7:02:18 GMT 12
Kumasawa never hurt anyone! I believe George is the Culprit and Kumasawa is the accomplice through process of elimination.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 7:09:37 GMT 12
Kumasawa is not involved in any murder!
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 7:14:10 GMT 12
Kumasawa is not involved in any murder! Then i propose that through process of elimination George isa culprit... and Battler is his accomplice. ( =_=)
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 7:15:55 GMT 12
Kumasawa is not involved in any murder! Then i propose that through process of elimination George isa culprit... and Battler is his accomplice. ( =_=) Battler did not aid George in any way!
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 7:27:42 GMT 12
Kumasawa is not involved in any murder! Kumasawa's alternate personality was involved in the murders. through process of elimination.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 7:29:02 GMT 12
Kumasawa is not involved in any murder! Kumasawa's alternate personality was involved in the murders. through process of elimination. Kumasawa's body is not involved in any murder! It has already been stated that one person other than Yasu has a split personality.
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Post by Cloud on Sept 21, 2013 7:32:18 GMT 12
There is only one alternate personality. The owner of the alt personality is aware they have the personality.
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Post by Yamon Venzli on Sept 21, 2013 7:33:39 GMT 12
Urgh! Then I propose that through process of elimination George is the culprit one and only culprit.
and here are my reasons.
Is George the only possible person to have an alternate personality and be the culprit?
Why can't Kinzo have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? Not once has Kinzo been mentioned throughout the entire story and has only been mentioned once and that was when his body was discovered. Knox's 1st.
Why can't Krauss, Natsuhi, Jessica, Genji, Kanon, and Erika have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? They are all dead at the beginning of the game. The Detective confirmed this. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Why can't Nanjo have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? It was attempted in the beginning with the letter for the second twilight seeing as he was the one finding the most letters, however his body did not place the letters. While Rosa was with Nanjo, not once has he showed any change in behavior. People were still being killed even with him being with Rosa.
Why can't Eva and Hideyoshi have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? Eva and Hideyoshi have a full alibi for the first twilight and automatically makes them innocent in the second twilight. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies for the first twilight, they are innocent for the second.
Why can't Kyrie have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? Kyrie is also neither a killer nor an accomplice! The red is enough to state otherwise. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Why can't Rudolf have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? While rosa was with rudolf, not once has he showed any change in behavior. People were still being killed even with him being with Rosa. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Why can't Maria have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? Maria slept through the first twilight entirely! The red is enough to state otherwise. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Why can't Kumasawa have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? After Kumasawa died at 12:30pm on October 5th 1986, murders were still being commited. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Why can't Shannon have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? After Shannon died at 12:30pm on October 5th 1986, murders were still being commited. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Why can't Battler have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit? Throughout the entire story, Battler has been given no alibi and has been seen as a criminal by multiple people. Even more so, Battler did indeed witness these murders! However Battler out-lived Kyrie, Rudolf, and Nanjo! But not Rosa. Who was obviously killed by other people in her last moments. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes to the very end with their bodies, they are not murderers.
Hemples Raven George is the only possible person to have an alternate personality and commit the crimes.
However there is red that states otherwise.
The first and second twilights have the same culprit. George can easliy be the culprit to these twilights as stated in blue previously mentioned that made the crimes possible.
The letter was not in the study the first time! It was placed there when the family was searching the rooms! George was with the group the entire time, his actions were never stated.
Battler saw George and Maria in their beds when he returned from escorting Erika to the mansion! The amount of time in between is an extemely large gap and can be solved by blue previously stated.
George did not leave the bedroom while Battler was out. The Key word is "Did" which is to imply an action they of what they had done. This only clarifies his name and not his body. Alt George could leave the bedroom at any time. An alternate personality is defined as a second, third, etc. personality in a body aside from the original.
George did not kill Shannon! The Key word is "Did" which is to imply an action they of what they had done. This only clarifies his name and not his body. Alt George could kill Shanon. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are able to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are murderers.
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 7:33:50 GMT 12
There is only one alternate personality. The owner of the alt personality is aware they have the personality. I will not rebut the first statement, however the owner of the alternate personality is unaware that the personality is not real!
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Post by Cloud on Sept 21, 2013 7:37:22 GMT 12
Jesus. Yamon's argument is beautiful. I can argue against it but it IS beautiful. How will you argue against this, Mr. Masters?
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Post by animex75 on Sept 21, 2013 7:39:31 GMT 12
Urgh! Then I propose that through process of elimination George is the culprit one and only culprit.and here are my reasons. Is George the only possible person to have an alternate personality and be the culprit?Why can't Kinzo have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?Not once has Kinzo been mentioned throughout the entire story and has only been mentioned once and that was when his body was discovered.Knox's 1st.Why can't Krauss, Natsuhi, Jessica, Genji, Kanon, and Erika have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?They are all dead at the beginning of the game. The Detective confirmed this. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.Why can't Nanjo have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?It was attempted in the beginning with the letter for the second twilight seeing as he was the one finding the most letters, however his body did not place the letters. While Rosa was with Nanjo, not once has he showed any change in behavior. People were still being killed even with him being with Rosa.Why can't Eva and Hideyoshi have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?Eva and Hideyoshi have a full alibi for the first twilight and automatically makes them innocent in the second twilight. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies for the first twilight, they are innocent for the second.Why can't Kyrie have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?Kyrie is also neither a killer nor an accomplice! The red is enough to state otherwise. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.Why can't Rudolf have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?While rosa was with rudolf, not once has he showed any change in behavior. People were still being killed even with him being with Rosa. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.Why can't Maria have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?Maria slept through the first twilight entirely! The red is enough to state otherwise. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.Why can't Kumasawa have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?After Kumasawa died at 12:30pm on October 5th 1986, murders were still being commited. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.Why can't Shannon have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?After Shannon died at 12:30pm on October 5th 1986, murders were still being commited. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are not murderers.Why can't Battler have an alternate personality and/or be the culprit?Throughout the entire story, Battler has been given no alibi and has been seen as a criminal by multiple people. Even more so, Battler did indeed witness these murders! However Battler out-lived Kyrie, Rudolf, and Nanjo! But not Rosa. Who was obviously killed by other people in her last moments. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are unable to commit the crimes to the very end with their bodies, they are not murderers.Hemples RavenGeorge is the only possible person to have an alternate personality and commit the crimes.However there is red that states otherwise.The first and second twilights have the same culprit.George can easliy be the culprit to these twilights as stated in blue previously mentioned that made the crimes possible.The letter was not in the study the first time! It was placed there when the family was searching the rooms!George was with the group the entire time, his actions were never stated.Battler saw George and Maria in their beds when he returned from escorting Erika to the mansion! The amount of time in between is an extemely large gap and can be solved by blue previously stated.George did not leave the bedroom while Battler was out.The Key word is "Did" which is to imply an action they of what they had done. This only clarifies his name and not his body. Alt George could leave the bedroom at any time. An alternate personality is defined as a second, third, etc. personality in a body aside from the original.George did not kill Shannon!The Key word is "Did" which is to imply an action they of what they had done. This only clarifies his name and not his body. Alt George could kill Shanon. Regardless of if it was an alternate personality or not, the body that commits murder is classified as the murderer. If they are able to commit the crimes with their bodies, they are murderers. It has already been stated that George did not kill Shannon, therefore he was not responsible for her death in any way! George is not the only possible culprit! George did not place Beatrice's letter! George does not have an alternate personality!
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