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Post by Segaco on Aug 26, 2017 10:38:59 GMT 12
You examine Sarah more closely. She has a wound on her head, most likely caused by a blunt weapon. You also examine the knives on her back: They are real, and they were stuck there. You confirm that and leave the room, to Fen's. ... You enter Fen's room and look inside the cupboard. There are 3 knives there, two are missing. After seeing this, you leave the room. ... You enter Jezz's room and look inside the cupboard. Inside it, you find... nothing. It's empty. As you wonder what happened this could mean, you hear footsteps coming from behind you.
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Post by animex75 on Aug 26, 2017 10:40:52 GMT 12
/do Find something to defend myself with
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Post by Segaco on Aug 26, 2017 11:24:21 GMT 12
Without looking back, you jump to the desk with the mirror and grab it (the mirror). You turn around and prepare to attack them with it, but just as you do that, a knife is thrown your way. You are able to stop the knife with the mirror, somehow. You look at your attacker, but can't recognize them at all: They have a mask and a cape, which have dirt on them. You ignore this and rush at them anyway and manage to hit them twice before stopping. -You can't move at all and feel a strong pain on your chest. As you fall to the floor, the masked person laughs, and you can't tell if they are male or female. You try to stand up, but are unable to, as they step on your head. "Good night~"-They say You feel your strength go away and you slowly close your eyes. You hear the person's laugh mixed with the sound of the rain for a second, but after a few minutes, both stop. You have died. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A week later, the police arrived on the island to investiagate the disappearance of 8 people. They searched everywhere on the island, and found exactly 8 corpses near a mansion on a tree. No one knows what happened in that island, and probably never will, as a meteorite fell on the island soon after the investigation started and erased all evidence needed to solve the case. -------------- And that's it. Sorry about the meteorite, I just didn't want the cyan text to be empty. Now solve it! Also this is my mod color thing, pls don't use it.
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Post by Segaco on Aug 26, 2017 11:27:06 GMT 12
List of red truths:Anyone excluding the culprit/s or accomplice/s (if any) will attack who they think is the culprit/s. The scene in the hallway was not staged. There's real blood there. Sarah did not scream because she witnessed a murder. Flaming's master key was used once. When Ryax entered Xerxes' room, he had to unlock it first. Room was also chain locked, meaning he also had to break the chain. The knife used to stab Fen was the one which was used to kill Xerxes. Xerxes was killed in Fen's room. Xerxes was killed by being stabbed on the back. The door was indeed locked when Ryax tried to open it. He also had to break a chain lock. The culprit is not in possession of Flaming's master key. There is only one culprit. A culprit is someone who, if they had not done what they did, no one would have died. They are basically the mastermind behind everything. Culprit or accomplice(if any): Neither of them touched the chain locks. No one climbed out of a window while someone was dying Ryax had to unlock the door and break the chain to get into Xerxes' room. If he hadn't, he wouldn't have been able to enter it. Nothing was used to hold the broken chains together. The culprit has not touched a chain lock. The knife Xerxes had was the one used to stab Fen. Wroooong~ (Fen did not leave that bloody print on the phone's Entrance button, that was the killer!) The culprit was in possession of Flaming's master key. The culprit is one of the eight corpses found by the police. Flaming's master key did leave his possession. That is not correct. (No one was killed in the hallway.) Part of it, yes. (Sarah's scream was simply a reaction to the blood and debris in the hallway.) The culprit did not call the entrance in order to get in contact with their accomplice. After Ryax used the master key to unlock Xerxes' door, that same key was given to the detective. During the investigation, after Ryax handed it to him, the detective held Sarah's master key for the rest of the game. You do not need a key to lock a door from the inside, only from the outside. Doors can be unlocked with a key from the outside afterwards. They can also be unlocked from the inside without needing a key. When Nate answered the phone in the dining hall, he locked the line, meaning no one would have been able to call at that point. When the great wizard Segaco hung up the phone in Fen's room, anyone would have been able to make a call. Except for the dead people, of course. Someone set the lock on the window in Fen's room when the phone was hung up. Flaming's master key was not used to lock Fen's door. Xerxes was dragged into Fen's room after being killed. If you were to use a window to leave a room, you would fall to your death. Windows can only be locked from the inside. Ryax was murdered. Murdered Ryax was. Fen did not try to call the entrance first. The culprit hung up the phone to end the call with Nate. There are no hidden passages in the mansion. There are no hidden rooms in the mansion. You could say that. (Flaming willingly handed over his Master Key.) The culprit did use Flaming's master key. Neither Fen nor Xerxes have touched the chain locks. Ryax only used Sarah's Master Key once. Both red are correct. ("Xerxes was killed in Fen's room." & "Xerxes was dragged into Fen's room after being killed.") The detective cannot misidentify a corpse. Ryax was not pushed or fell out of the window in Fen's room after being murdered. If you were to use a window to leave a room, you would fall to your death. The culprit only entered rooms using doors. That trick wasn't used (removing the hinges of the door to leave). Of course the chain locks exist! False. (When Sarah's scream was heard, she had encountered the culprit.) Jezz wasn't killed in her room. Tech was not pushed out of a window. All the deaths are the culprit's fault. Flaming's master key was used to lock the dining hall. The only way to enter or exit a room is through the door that leads out into the hallway. The only exception is the entrance, which has the exit door. Depends on what you define as "Victim", but using my definition, it is correct. (A Victim was trying to get into Fen's room, and left the bloody handprints on the door.) Correct, except for the last part. (Xerxes stabbed Fen, but was not the one that killed him. Xerxes died before he got the chance, via that other knife to his back.) Xerxes stabbed Fen with a knife. That same knife later killed Xerxes. No firearms were used to kill anyone. The culprit had possession of Flaming's key for most of the game. Sarah is in possession of Flaming's master key. The culprit did not use a gold bar to murder Fen. The dining hall's door was locked, so Sarah couldn't have entered it. The detective confirmed the death of every corpse he found. There were no suicides. No firearms were used to kill anyone. Normally, he wouldn't. (The detective would not misidentify a voice.) Xerxes was killed in a fight with my servants. Xerxes lost possession of his knife because it was embedded on Fen's arm. Xerxes attempted to murder Fen. Nobody has split personalities. The knife Nate found on Xerxes' back was not removed. The knives used to kill Sarah had been taken by the culprit after Ryax attacked the detective. Ignoring the detective's death, Sarah was the last victim to be murdered. Correct. (The blood in the hallway was from Jezz's throat being cut, for the most part. Some of Fen's and Xerxes' was no doubt there, but most of it was Jezz's.) He died right after doing that to the detective trying to escape from my magic. (Ryax chased after Sarah when the detective was unconscious.) Flaming's key was placed in Sarah's possession after her death. Sarah did not die in the hallway. Tech was with Jezz when she was murdered. No traps were used to commmit murder. Fen, Xerxes and Jezz were in the room they were found in when the chain to the room they were in was set. It's more like he was thrown through it, but yes. (The broken window in Fen's room was caused by Ryax being pushed through it.) With "No one climbed out of a window while someone was dying." I mean "No one has climbed out of a window while someone was being killed." Coming in direct contact with any part of the chain lock counts as touching it. The chain locks were set using some kind of tool, but it's not really a tool. This tool was not a magnet or a wire hanger. That didn't happen when the detective tried to open a chain locked door. (The chain locks were installed backwards, thus when the door was opened far enough, the chain simply fell off) If we are talking about the first time he answered the phone, correct. (Nate heard Fen's voice over the phone.) Xerxes attacked Fen, believing he was the one who killed Jezz. Fen was not killed via blunt force trauma. An accomplice did not call the culprit by phone. Sarah's master key was not used in to make the first 3 locked rooms. The Entrance's phone never rang. Though someone did press the "entrance" button on a phone on purpose. Only two master keys exist. With the exception of the Master Keys, there is only one key to each room, 1 key for Xerxes's door, 1 key for Fen's door, 1 key for Jezz's door, 1 key for the Entrance and 1 key for the Dining Hall. Jezz's murder was with one of her own knives. Before the murders, all doors were unlocked. Jezz was killed with one of the knives in her cupboard. She also died in the hallway. Xerxes is a smart man, he wouldn't assume someone is a killer just because they were standing over a dead person. The knife that killed Jezz was also used to kill Xerxes. Xerxes stabbed Fen in the arm, making the knife get stuck there. Fen was not strangled. After Ryax had finished with the detective, the culprit attacked him and threw him out the window. When the detective confirmed the death of the first corpse he found, there were only 4 people alive. Nate was not stabbed, he was killed with magic. You would be setting the chain from the outside that way. (An open door provides just enough of a gap for the tool to reach in and set the chain.) When Nate woke up, the culprit was hiding under the dining hall's table. Fen did not die from the wound Xerxes caused. The chain on Fen's room was set after Xerxes had died. Fen died after Xerxes was fatally stabbed in the back. A tool was used to set the chain locks manually. I'm not sure if this object can be counted as a tool, but let's do that. This tool was a glove. A living body was inside the rooms of the victims when the chain locks were set. Each time certain chain locks were broken, they were replaced with a new one. A living body was inside one of the locked rooms before Nate, Ryax, or Sarah entered them. Lol no. (Some dumbass set the chain lock using a knife because why not.) Xerxes did not attack Fen for that reason. Fen never held a knife. (Perhaps Fen had picked up the knife used to murder Jezz, which is why Xerxes believed Fen had killed her.) Incorrect. (The culprit ran to Xerxes in a panic, and claimed that Fen had murdered Jezz.) Fen did not die from blood loss. The culprit wore gloves to set a chain lock. The culprit didn't kill Flaming and then take his master key. Anyone would notice someone leaving the room they are in. Someone did try to steal Xerxes' gold. They almost succeeded, actually. False. (Fen died from the cartridge in his nose being shoved up into his brain by someone hitting his nose in a specific spot.) All the doors have deadbolt locks on them. Meaning you cannot set the lock from the inside of the door and close it. A dead body was not pushed or thrown out Jezz's window. The culprit tried to steal the gold. The chain on Fen's room was set after Xerxes had died, so he couldn't have set the chain. The culprit did not set the chain on Jezz's room. The culprit did not set the chain on Xerxes' room. The last living person was/is the culprit. Incorrect. (The detective was killed by a gold bar. That is, via blunt-force trauma.) The only corpse which was thrown through a window was Xerxes'. Even if the culprit hit Nate with something, that wasn't the cause of his death. Sarah did not scream because she had encountered the culprit. When Sarah screamed, there were no corpses in the hallway. The culprit hitting Nate was not the cause of Nate's death. Nate's skull being crushed was not his cause of death. Fen only called the dining hall. Incorrect. (The culprit received a master key from Flaming, and then killed him.) That is false. (The culprit was inside Xerxes's room when Ryax broke the chain lock.) The detective (Nate) did not suffocate. Fen did not die of a heart attack. Fen was not tazed. The detective was not tazed. The detective's neck was not broken. Fen's neck was not broken. Sarah did not overhear the culprit talking about their plan. That would be incorrect because the culprit tricked them into doing it, making them their direct cause of death. (The culprit talking some incredibly-gullible person (i.e. Tech) into locking a chain and then jumping or climbing out a window to their death would be considered suicide.) Fen was poisoned during dinner. Tech was an accomplice. Tech set the chain and locked the door from the inside (he had gloves, so he wasn't directly touching them). He then tried to get out of the mansion through the window, but fell to his death instead. Correct except for the "jump out the window" part. (Tech moved Jezz's body into her room and then jumped out the window. Tech was with Jezz when she was murdered, so he would have been able to do this. Tech was alive when he jumped, so this doesn't violate the red that a dead body was not pushed or thrown out Jezz's window, however he died when he hit the ground or a branch of the tree the mansion is built into.) I am Flaming. Flaming's master key did leave his possession, but only when he placed it on Sarah's body. Tech set the chain in Jezz's room. Flaming set the chain in Fen's room. Fen set the chain in Xerxes' room. Flaming did not hide under Xerxes' bed. Other than Fen and the detective, no one else used a phone to call. False (The other reason Sarah screamed was because she realized the blood was real.) Incorrect. (The only ones present when Jezz died were Tech and Flaming, not counting the victim herself.) Xerxes died in Fen's room. Xerxes died in the hallway. Fen was wearing gloves, so he never directly touched the chain lock. After Fen died, there was no living body within Xerxes' room. The bloody handprints on Fen's door don't belong to Jezz. The bloody handprints on Fen's door belong to Fen. Fen was not trying to run away from the culprit. False (Fen might have been trying to get to Xerxes after Xerxes had been stabbed by the culprit.) Jezz didn't know Xerxes had gold. Nate was poisoned. The culprit did not hide in Xerxes' room. When Nate looked under Fen's bed, Flaming wasn't there. Nate closed the dining hall's door when he heard the phone ring. That was before Sarah's scream and after she had left the room. Fen, Jezz, Tech, and Flaming were present in the hallway when Jezz was murdered. Xerxes wasn't in the hallway when Jezz died. Xerxes died partway in Fen's room, partway outside in the hallway. That is to say, he was laying on the threshold and simultaneously in both the hall AND Fen's room. Ryax did not take Fen's gloves. Ryax only left Xerxes' room once, and that was to check why Jezz's door was open. Nate went with Ryax and Sarah to Fen's room. The door was locked. Nate unlocked it. He then tried to open it, but it was chain locked. After breaking the chain, Nate went inside the room and found Xerxes' corpse gone. Nate would have noticed someone leaving the room. Xerxes left his room and came upon the scene (dead Jezz). When Jezz died, she fell against Fen. Xerxes exited his room and saw Fen pushing the dead Jezz off him, which triggered him to think Fen was Jezz's killer. Flaming hid inside the closet. You wouldn't have heard her. (Sarah screamed, not just because of the gore, but because she slipped on the blood and fell.) Fen's gloves were not in the room he was found in when the detective entered the room. Fen removed his gloves himself. You wouldn't have heard the commotion even if the door was open: the place where that happened is too far away from the dining hall to be heard. You managed to hear Sarah for reason X. Fen threw his gloves out the window before he died. Fen threw his gloves out the window because they were bloody. Flaming slipped while going down the ladder to leave the mansion and fell to his death. Theories to counter-Fen only called the dining hall.- -The chain locks were set by an accomplice.-
Questions
Where was the culprit when Nate woke up?
Under the dining hall's table.
How were the chain locks set? With gloves.
Who was the person that appeared in front of Nate? The culprit.
Who am I? Flaming.
How did Fen die? Fen was poisoned.
How did the detective die? Nate was poisoned.
How was Xerxes killed in Fen's room and then dragged into it? Xerxes died partway in Fen's room, partway outside in the hallway.
Why did Xerxes think Fen was the culprit?
Fen pushed a dead Jezz off him, making Xerxes think Fen was her killer.
How were the locked rooms done (including the phone one)? Will be solved in the last question.
Why did Sarah scream? Reason X.
How did Flaming die? He slipped while going down the ladder and fell to his death.
Now then, friend, tell me...
What happened?
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Post by animex75 on Aug 26, 2017 11:41:32 GMT 12
Alright, where to start? Ah, I know! - Ryax is an accomplice. His duty was to keep the detective busy while the murders were committed! After all, an innocent man would not attack the detective! - The scene in the hallway was staged; if the detective could hear Sarah scream, he would've heard a commotion violent enough to cause such a scene! - Oh, and speaking of which, Sarah screamed because she witnessed Fen's murder being carried out! - Flaming is involved. His key was used to set up the chain of closed rooms. For this bit, it doesn't matter if he's an accomplice or a killer. The killer and an accomplice hid in the rooms that had been locked with the chains. I didn't check the beds the first time, so they were probably under those. The killer heard Ryax and the detective coming and hid in Fen's room with Xerxes, locking and chaining the door. Meanwhile, the accomplice in the other room was in there when Jezz was murdered, and created the locked door closed room. However, Xerxes' room was not even locked, it was closed and Ryax merely pretended that he needed the key. - But who is this other accomplice but Tech? His body was never found, and his whereabouts during the murders are unknown, so he's the only logical option. - Jezz died first, and her knife was the one used to kill Xerxes. The one Xerxes had was the one that wounded Fen, and it was Fen's own knife.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Aug 26, 2017 11:48:46 GMT 12
Alright, lets get this started. The first couple murders should be good for now.
The scene the detective discovers in the hallway is staged. There simply was too much there for the detective not to have heard anything if a fight of that scale took place there.
Xerxes was killed in Fens room, then the culprit chased Fen to Xerxes room and killed him via blunt force trama using a gold bar.
Ryax is an accomplice to the culprit. The chain was not set on the door to Xerxes's room, but he created the illusion of it to fool the detective.
The culprit is in possession of Flaming's Master Key.
There is only one culprit
The culprit and an accomplice hid in Jezz and Fen's rooms to set the chain locks to create the illusion of a closed room mystery.
No one climbed out of a window while Murders were taking place.
Eeh, what the hell, lets do a full first murders theory just for funsies
The culprit is Flaming. He killed Jezz first, and left Tech in the room to set the chain lock. He went on to Fen's room, where he discovered Xerxes fighting with Fen, and unseen, managed to stab Xerxes in the back. Fen ran to Xerxes's room to call for help, but was then murdered by Flaming. Sarah sees this and faints, but the sound of Ryax and Nate approaching cause him to flee to Fen's room.
Ryax takes Sarah's Master Key and gets into Xerxes's room while the detective is away checking the other doors, and breaks the chain lock in order to create the illusion that the room was chained closed from the inside.
That'll be it for now; I don't wanna get bogged down in too many big pieces just yet. A few small chunks and this puzzle will fall together nicely.
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Post by Segaco on Aug 26, 2017 13:07:09 GMT 12
Alright, where to start? Ah, I know! - Ryax is an accomplice. His duty was to keep the detective busy while the murders were committed! After all, an innocent man would not attack the detective! Anyone excluding the culprit/s or accomplice/s (if any) will attack who they think is the culprit/s.
- The scene in the hallway was staged; if the detective could hear Sarah scream, he would've heard a commotion violent enough to cause such a scene! The scene in the hallway was not staged. There's real blood there.
- Oh, and speaking of which, Sarah screamed because she witnessed Fen's murder being carried out! I won't answer this for now. Though I'll say that that is incorrect.
- Flaming is involved. His key was used to set up the chain of closed rooms. For this bit, it doesn't matter if he's an accomplice or a killer. The killer and an accomplice hid in the rooms that had been locked with the chains. I didn't check the beds the first time, so they were probably under those. The killer heard Ryax and the detective coming and hid in Fen's room with Xerxes, locking and chaining the door. Meanwhile, the accomplice in the other room was in there when Jezz was murdered, and created the locked door closed room. However, Xerxes' room was not even locked, it was closed and Ryax merely pretended that he needed the key. Flaming's master key was used once. When Ryax entered Xerxes' room, he had to unlock it first. Room was also chain locked, meaning he also had to break the chain.While we're at it, why don't you explain how some of the chains were mysteriously fixed?- But who is this other accomplice but Tech? His body was never found, and his whereabouts during the murders are unknown, so he's the only logical option. If you want to think that, go ahead. Bring more proof.- Jezz died first, and her knife was the one used to kill Xerxes. The one Xerxes had was the one that wounded Fen, and it was Fen's own knife. The knife used to stab Fen was the one which was used to kill Xerxes.I can say that much.
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Post by animex75 on Aug 26, 2017 13:34:04 GMT 12
Flaming's master key was used once. When Ryax entered Xerxes' room, he had to unlock it first. Room was also chain locked, meaning he also had to break the chain.While we're at it, why don't you explain how some of the chains were mysteriously fixed? Fixed as in set? I have something for that. The killer and an accomplice set the chains themselves while they were in there. If you meant fixed as in repaired, then something was used to hold the broken chains together, tape for example. As for how that third chain was set, I have an idea: The killer used the windows to move between the two rooms they chained.The knife used to stab Fen was the one which was used to kill Xerxes.I can say that much. Very well, then. How about this? - Xerxes had grabbed that knife to defend himself, but the culprit stabbed him before he got the chance to. Fen managed to get away, but the killer struck him with a gold bar and killed him. Ah, I almost forgot! Fen did not leave that bloody print on the phone's Entrance button, that was the killer!
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Post by Segaco on Aug 26, 2017 13:35:30 GMT 12
The scene the detective discovers in the hallway is staged. There simply was too much there for the detective not to have heard anything if a fight of that scale took place there. The scene in the hallway is not staged.Xerxes was killed in Fens room, then the culprit chased Fen to Xerxes room and killed him via blunt force trama using a gold bar. Well, yes. Xerxes was killed in Fen's room. Xerxes was killed by being stabbed on the back.Ryax is an accomplice to the culprit. The chain was not set on the door to Xerxes's room, but he created the illusion of it to fool the detective. The door was indeed locked when Ryax tried to open it. He also had to break a chain lock.The culprit is in possession of Flaming's Master Key. The culprit is not in possession of Flaming's master key.There is only one culprit Correct.The culprit and an accomplice hid in Jezz and Fen's rooms to set the chain locks to create the illusion of a closed room mystery. Culprit or accomplice(if any): Neither of them touched the chain locks.No one climbed out of a window while Murders were taking place. If you define "while the murders were taking place" as "no one climbed out of a window while someone was dying", then it's incorrect.Eeh, what the hell, lets do a full first murders theory just for funsies The culprit is Flaming. He killed Jezz first, and left Tech in the room to set the chain lock. He went on to Fen's room, where he discovered Xerxes fighting with Fen, and unseen, managed to stab Xerxes in the back. Fen ran to Xerxes's room to call for help, but was then murdered by Flaming. Sarah sees this and faints, but the sound of Ryax and Nate approaching cause him to flee to Fen's room. Culprit or accomplice(if any): Neither of them have touched the chain locks.Ryax takes Sarah's Master Key and gets into Xerxes's room while the detective is away checking the other doors, and breaks the chain lock in order to create the illusion that the room was chained closed from the inside. Woah that's a nice trick. Sadly, I did not think of that.Ryax had to unlock the door and break the chain to get into the room. If he hadn't, he wouldn't have been able to enter it.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Aug 26, 2017 17:06:22 GMT 12
Haha, now we're getting somewhere
The culprit never had possession of Flaming's master key.
The culprit is not one of the eight corpses found by the police.
Flaming's master key never left his possession.
Xerxes and Fen got into a fight with the culprit in the hallway.
No one was killed in the hallway.
Xerxes and Fen set the chain locks themselves before they were killed. The culprit snuck in through the windows to kill each of them.
Sarah's scream was simply a reaction to the blood and debris in the hallway.
Fen only called the Dining Hall.
The culprit called the entrance in order to get in contact with their accomplice.
After Ryax used the master key to get into Xerxes's room, that same key was given to the detective.
During the investigation, after Ryax handed it to him, the detective held Sara's master key for the rest of the game.
Just to establish, You do not need a key to lock a door from the inside, only from the outside.
The accomplice hung up the phone in Fen's room that Nate left off the hook in an attempt to lock the phone line.
Someone set the lock on the window in Fen's room when the phone was hung up.
Flaming's master key was used to lock the door after hanging up the phone in Fen's room.
Xerxes was dragged into Fen's room after being killed.
That's enough for me for now
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Post by Segaco on Aug 27, 2017 1:58:52 GMT 12
Fixed as in set? I have something for that. The killer and an accomplice set the chains themselves while they were in there. Nope, meant as, uh, you could say "repaired" but that's not the word.If you meant fixed as in repaired, then something was used to hold the broken chains together. Nope.As for how that third chain was set, I have an idea: The killer used the windows to move between the two rooms they chained. The culprit has not touched a chain lock.Very well, then. How about this? - Xerxes had grabbed that knife to defend himself, but the culprit stabbed him before he got the chance to. Fen managed to get away, but the killer struck him with a gold bar and killed him. The knife Xerxes had was the one used to stab Fen.Ah, I almost forgot! Fen did not leave that bloody print on the phone's Entrance button, that was the killer! Wroooong~The culprit never had possession of Flaming's master key. That is not correct.The culprit is not one of the eight corpses found by the police. That is incorrect.Flaming's master key never left his possession. That is incorrect.Xerxes and Fen got into a fight with the culprit in the hallway. I'll leave this there for now. My servants didn't do a very good job, but they at least managed to get rid of one person. Added to the OP.
No one was killed in the hallway. That is not correct.Xerxes and Fen set the chain locks themselves before they were killed. The culprit snuck in through the windows to kill each of them. Remember the mansion is on a tree. Wouldn't you fall to your death if you tried to leave a room through it?
Sarah's scream was simply a reaction to the blood and debris in the hallway. Part of it, yes.Fen only called the Dining Hall. I refuse to answer this for now. Added to the OP.The culprit called the entrance in order to get in contact with their accomplice. Incorrect.After Ryax used the master key to get into Xerxes's room, that same key was given to the detective. After Ryax used the master key to unlock Xerxes' door, that same key was given to the detective.During the investigation, after Ryax handed it to him, the detective held Sara's master key for the rest of the game. Correct.Just to establish, You do not need a key to lock a door from the inside, only from the outside. Correct. Doors can be unlocked with a key from the outside afterwards. They can also be unlocked from the inside without needing a key.The accomplice hung up the phone in Fen's room that Nate left off the hook in an attempt to lock the phone line. When Nate answered the phone in the dining hall, he locked the line, meaning no one would have been able to call at that point.When the great wizard Segaco hung up the phone in Fen's room, anyone would have been able to make a call. Except for the dead people, of course.Someone set the lock on the window in Fen's room when the phone was hung up. Correct.Flaming's master key was used to lock the door after hanging up the phone in Fen's room. Flaming's master key was not used to lock Fen's door.Xerxes was dragged into Fen's room after being killed. Correct.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Aug 27, 2017 4:09:34 GMT 12
Unless otherwise disproven, The culprit can climb around the outside of the house in order to sneak in and out through the windows.Clearly the culprit is Tarzan, Lord of the Apes The window locks can be set from the outside.Ryax threw himself out the window attempting to chase after the culprit.Ryax jumped out the window trying to escape the culprit.Fen tried to call the entrance first.The culprit hit the "2" on the phone that Fen used in order to end the call.There are no hidden passages in the MansionThere are no hidden rooms in the MansionFlaming willingly handed over his Master Key.The Culprit never used the master key to lock any doors.The victims set the chain locks themselves before being killed.Ryax only used Sarah's Master Key once.And, I'm sorry, Segaco, I have some possibly conflicting reds.
In response to my "Xerxes was killed in Fens room, then the culprit chased Fen to Xerxes room and killed him via blunt force trama using a gold bar." You said
" Well, yes. Xerxes was killed in Fen's room.
Xerxes was killed by being stabbed on the back." But on my most recent blue wall I suggested" Xerxes was dragged into Fen's room after being killed." And you responded with "Correct." If you say there's a way both of these are correct, that's fine, I'll believe ya. I just wanted to bring that to your attention.
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Post by Segaco on Aug 27, 2017 4:42:36 GMT 12
Unless otherwise disproven, The culprit can climb around the outside of the house in order to sneak in and out through the windows. Alright: if you were to use the window a window to leave a room, you would fall to your death.Clearly the culprit is Tarzan, Lord of the Apes I agree with the above statement.The window locks can be set from the outside. Windows can only be locked from the inside.Ryax threw himself out the window attempting to chase after the culprit. Ryax was murdered.Ryax jumped out the window trying to escape the culprit. Murdered.Fen tried to call the entrance first. That is not correct.The culprit hit the "2" on the phone that Fen used in order to end the call. Incorrect. The culprit hung up the phone to end the call.There are no hidden passages in the Mansion There are no hidden passages in the mansion.There are no hidden rooms in the Mansion There are no hidden rooms in the mansion.Flaming willingly handed over his Master Key. You could say that.The Culprit never used the master key to lock any doors. The culprit did use Flaming's master key.The victims set the chain locks themselves before being killed. Neither Fen nor Xerxes have touched the chain locks.Ryax only used Sarah's Master Key once. Correct.And, I'm sorry, Segaco, I have some possibly conflicting reds.
In response to my "Xerxes was killed in Fens room, then the culprit chased Fen to Xerxes room and killed him via blunt force trama using a gold bar." You said " Well, yes. Xerxes was killed in Fen's room. Xerxes was killed by being stabbed on the back." But on my most recent blue wall I suggested" Xerxes was dragged into Fen's room after being killed." And you responded with "Correct." If you say there's a way both of these are correct, that's fine, I'll believe ya. I just wanted to bring that to your attention. Both red are correct.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Aug 27, 2017 5:08:07 GMT 12
When it is stated that a character (culprit or victim) did not touch the chain locks, that includes the entire mechanism, meaning, while the chain was in the "set" position, a character could not install the chain lock on a door, therefore causing the chain to be set without "touching it"
All bodies found by the detective are precisely who they appear to be.
Ryax was not pushed or fell out of the window in Fen's room after being murdered.
Prior to the detective entering the rooms, ropes were hung out of the windows which allowed the culprit to exit and enter the rooms to commit the murders.
The culprit entered all victims rooms via their doors.
Hmmm.. perhaps one of my favorite tricks is at work here?
The culprit removed the hinges or part of the hinge in order to enter and exit the room, and reset them after their murders were completed. Thus, they never had to touch a chain lock.
The chain locks do not exist.
When Sarah's scream was heard, she had encountered the culprit.
Jezz was killed in her own room.
Tech's body was pushed out of a window.
A single culprit is responsible for every death.
Flaming's Master Key was used to lock the dining hall.
The only way to enter or exit a room is through the door that leads out into the hallway.
A Victim was trying to get into Fen's room, and left the bloody handprints on the door.
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Post by animex75 on Aug 27, 2017 5:38:50 GMT 12
- Xerxes stabbed Fen, but was not the one that killed him. Xerxes died before he got the chance, via that other knife to his back. - The culprit took Xerxes' gun off of him and used it to kill Ryax and the detective. - Flaming's key was in possession of the killer for the entire game once they took it from Flaming's body. - The culprit used a gold bar to murder Fen. - Sarah encountered the culprit in the Dining Hall. They used Flaming's key to get in there. - Xerxes and Fen were indeed dead when they were found. - There were no suicides. - The chain locks were set by an accomplice. - Ryax was shot by the culprit and fell out the window.
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Post by Segaco on Aug 27, 2017 7:54:13 GMT 12
When it is stated that a character (culprit or victim) did not touch the chain locks, that includes the entire mechanism, meaning, while the chain was in the "set" position, a character could not install the chain lock on a door, therefore causing the chain to be set without "touching it" Could you rephrase this please?All bodies found by the detective are precisely who they appear to be. The detective cannot misidentify a corpse.Ryax was not pushed or fell out of the window in Fen's room after being murdered. Correct.Prior to the detective entering the rooms, ropes were hung out of the windows which allowed the culprit to exit and enter the rooms to commit the murders. If you were to use a window to leave a room, you would fall to your death.The culprit entered all victims rooms via their doors. The culprit only entered rooms using doors.The culprit removed the hinges or part of the hinge in order to enter and exit the room, and reset them after their murders were completed. Thus, they never had to touch a chain lock. Better than the no ceiling oneBut no, that trick wasn't used (removing the hinges of the door to leave).The chain locks do not exist. Of course they exist!When Sarah's scream was heard, she had encountered the culprit. False.Jezz was killed in her own room. Jezz wasn't killed in her room.Tech's body was pushed out of a window. Tech was not pushed out of a window.A single culprit is responsible for every death. Correct. All the deaths are the culprit's fault.Flaming's Master Key was used to lock the dining hall. Flaming's master key was used to lock the dining hall.The only way to enter or exit a room is through the door that leads out into the hallway. Correct. The only exception is the entrance, which has the exit door.A Victim was trying to get into Fen's room, and left the bloody handprints on the door. Depends on what you define as "Victim", but using my definition, it is correct.- Xerxes stabbed Fen, but was not the one that killed him. Xerxes died before he got the chance, via that other knife to his back. Well, might as well reveal this. Correct, except for the last part. Xerxes stabbed Fen with a knife. That same knife later killed Xerxes.The question is: How?- The culprit took Xerxes' gun off of him and used it to kill Ryax and the detective. No firearms were used to kill anyone.- Flaming's key was in possession of the killer for the entire game once they took it from Flaming's body. The culprit had possession of Flaming's key for most of the game. You also missed something, so I will kind give it to you in red as a gift <3Sarah is in possession of Flaming's master key.- The culprit used a gold bar to murder Fen. Incorrect.- Sarah encountered the culprit in the Dining Hall. They used Flaming's key to get in there. The dining hall's door was locked, so Sarah couldn't have entered.- Xerxes and Fen were indeed dead when they were found. The detective confirmed the death of every corpse he found.- There were no suicides. There were no suicides.- The chain locks were set by an accomplice. I refuse to answer this for now.- Ryax was shot by the culprit and fell out the window. No firearms were used to kill anyone.
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Post by animex75 on Aug 27, 2017 9:18:03 GMT 12
- The detective would not misidentify a voice. - Xerxes was killed while getting a knife from Fen's room. He had lost possession of the one he stabbed Fen with and went to Fen's room to get another. Cue knife to the back. Xerxes most likely lost possession of the knife because it was embedded in Fen's arm. - Alternatively, Fen managed to wrestle the knife from Xerxes. - Xerxes attempted to murder Fen. - Nobody has split personalities. - Sarah was killed by the knives taken from Xerxes' corpse, as well as one of the others missing from Fen's room. - The knives had been taken by the killer before Ryax attacked the detective. - Sarah was the last victim, besides the detective. - The blood in the hallway was from Jezz's throat being cut, for the most part. Some of Fen's and Xerxes' was no doubt there, but most of it was Jezz's. - Ryax chased after Sarah when the detective was unconscious. - Flaming's key was placed in Sarah's possession after her death. - Sarah died in the hallway. - Tech was with Jezz when she was murdered. - No traps were used to commit murder. - No chain locks were set until after the victims were dragged into the rooms they were found in. - The broken window in Fen's room was caused by Ryax being pushed through it.
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Post by Segaco on Aug 27, 2017 11:27:01 GMT 12
- The detective would not misidentify a voice. Normally, he wouldn't.- Xerxes was killed while getting a knife from Fen's room. He had lost possession of the one he stabbed Fen with and went to Fen's room to get another. Xerxes was killed in a fight with my servants.
Cue knife to the back. Xerxes most likely lost possession of the knife because it was embedded in Fen's arm. Nono what are you talking about mr nate he would totally not do that why would he stab him in the first place what are you thinking - Alternatively, Fen managed to wrestle the knife from Xerxes. The quote before this one was correct.- Xerxes attempted to murder Fen. Correct.- Nobody has split personalities. Nobody has split personalities.- Sarah was killed by the knives taken from Xerxes' corpse, as well as one of the others missing from Fen's room. The knife you found on Xerxes' back was not removed.- The knives had been taken by the killer before Ryax attacked the detective. It was after.- Sarah was the last victim, besides the detective. Ignoring the detective's death, yes, Sarah was the last victim to be murdered.- The blood in the hallway was from Jezz's throat being cut, for the most part. Some of Fen's and Xerxes' was no doubt there, but most of it was Jezz's. Correct.- Ryax chased after Sarah when the detective was unconscious. He died right after that trying to run away from my magic. He failed to do that, sadly.- Flaming's key was placed in Sarah's possession after her death. Flaming's key was placed in Sarah's possession after her death.- Sarah died in the hallway. Sarah did not die in the hallway.- Tech was with Jezz when she was murdered. Correct.- No traps were used to commit murder. Also true. I don't really like traps. Not those traps, I mean traps that kill Wait I mean Well you know what I mean- No chain locks were set until after the victims were dragged into the rooms they were found in. Fen, Xerxes and Jezz were in the room they were found in when the chain to the room they were in was set.- The broken window in Fen's room was caused by Ryax being pushed through it. It's more like he was thrown through it, but yes.Yeah, actually, I used magic to throw Ryax out the window.
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Post by animex75 on Aug 27, 2017 12:55:11 GMT 12
Cue knife to the back. Xerxes most likely lost possession of the knife because it was embedded in Fen's arm. Nono what are you talking about mr nate he would totally not do that why would he stab him in the first place what are you thinking There's your red, for one: "Xerxes stabbed Fen with a knife. That same knife later killed Xerxes."- Tech was with Jezz when she was murdered. Correct. Then, as you wished before, since Tech was with Jezz when she died, he is either an accomplice or the murderer. Since his body was never found, his death cannot be confirmed; since his death was not confirmed by the detective, nor was Flaming's death, then these two were the murderer and an accomplice.
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Post by Yarn Witch on Aug 27, 2017 18:24:36 GMT 12
Certainly on the Chain lock one, Segaco. I know I went sorta in circles with that one.
Say you have a chain lock like thisIf the chain part of it was already set in that rectangle, installing that rectangle onto the door (or the other end onto the doorframe) still counts as someone setting the chain lock. Sorry, I don't know if that's any clearer, actually...The chain locks were set using a magnet or a wire hanger, or some other tool.
The chain locks were installed backwards, thus when the door was opened far enough, the chain simply fell off (legit there is a video of someone in a hotel room with it set like that)Nate heard Fen's voice over the phone.Xerxes attacked Fen, believing he was the one who killed Jezz.
Fen was killed via blunt force trauma.
An accomplice called the culprit at some point.
Sarah's master key was used during the murders, before Ryax or the detective got ahold of it.
Someone called the Entrance on purpose.
There are only two Master Keys.
With the exception of the Master Keys, there is only one key to each room, 1 key for Xerxes's door, 1 key for Fen's door and so on.
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