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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 7:44:33 GMT 12
Of course there's a ceiling. Fun trick for another time.
Otherwise, you've got a very nice theory in your hands.
Its your sword versus mine. Let see who's loses it's edge first!
At the time when the first corpse was found, No other corpses exist!
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 7:50:44 GMT 12
So that means that after the first corpse was found, no one else died right? If so:
While Cloud went outside to break B1's window, Zeus took the chance to get to B4 and kill himself. He died before Cloud found Tea's body.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 7:53:40 GMT 12
(*hopes that's what you meant*)
There's no floor.
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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 7:58:55 GMT 12
If he died before Tea's body was found, then another corpse would exist.
All rooms are true rooms. They have 4 walls, a ceiling, and a floor. The only way in or out would be a door or window!
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 8:19:32 GMT 12
Oh I see what you mean now There were no other corpses when the first corpse was found.
Alright The first corpse (not body) that was found was Roberto's
Zeus knocked Tea, Roberto and Chris out and poisoned them. He put them in B1, B2 and B3, locked the doors & windows and then hid in the VIP Room. When Cloud woke up and left, Zeus went to B4, locked the door & window and poisoned himself. Cloud walked in B1 and found Tea's "body". So the poison hadn't killed her at that point. When he entered in B2, Roberto died of the poison, so he found his "corpse" not his "body". Tea probably died shortly after this. Chris also died of the poison after Tea so Cloud found his "corpse". When Cloud entered B4, he saw Zeus' "body". But when he approached him, he was considered to be a "corpse". This means Zeus died after Cloud entered the room.
I'm confused by my own theory But let's say that's what happened
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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 8:54:58 GMT 12
Knox's 4th. Poisons that conveniently kill at the right time will not be allowed
In fact, all the deaths were caused at point blank range by the culprit. All victims died instantly with the culprit in the same room!
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 9:03:56 GMT 12
If a person kills themselves, are they considered to be a culprit?
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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 9:06:35 GMT 12
Yes, as it would mean they killed someone. You are a culprit if you kill someone, even it it was direct, indirect, intentional, coincidental, or unintentional.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 9:20:12 GMT 12
The culprit was behind Cloud the whole time. He shot the victims as Cloud entered each room.
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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 9:31:14 GMT 12
The detective would not and can not ignore a murder if it happened in the same room that he's in. The detective would notice if somebody was following him as he went from room to room.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 9:40:48 GMT 12
People not mentioned in the story are the culprits. There are 4 culprits and each of them hid on B1, B2, B3 and B4.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 9:42:07 GMT 12
I forgot about the one culprit red Ignore that post Hmmmm
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 9:46:59 GMT 12
I think the killer killed Tea after Cloud left the room somehow. Someone pls help
Edit: I'll keep going tomorrow
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Post by Yarn Witch on Apr 25, 2017 10:20:20 GMT 12
Kinda fun to see stuff happening around here. Alright, lets hit the obvious ones first. The culprit committed suicide. They locked each of the other corpses in their respective rooms, and closed the loop themselves.
According to the red list, in order: There is no one in the VIP Room. The detective woke up in the VIP Room. Therefore there is no detective? ...Damn, I'm rusty. Well, I'll start with that while I hash out something more, I guess.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 10:34:06 GMT 12
Kinda fun to see stuff happening around here. Alright, lets hit the obvious ones first. The culprit committed suicide. They locked each of the other corpses in their respective rooms, and closed the loop themselves.According to the red list, in order: There is no one in the VIP Room. The detective woke up in the VIP Room. Therefore there is no detective? Pretty sure that red means there's no one in the VIP Room right now.
Also, to your blue: At the time when the first corpse was found, No other corpses exist!
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Post by Yarn Witch on Apr 25, 2017 10:42:56 GMT 12
I figured as much, but still, it was too good to just let pass without comment.
And well, in that case, same suicide option, but add:
The culprit waited for Cloud to wake up and enter the first room before quickly finishing off the other victims, and then themselves. Tea was killed beforehand.
And, correct me if I'm wrong, but combing over the list of reds, I can't find anything that contradicts this if all Reds stating there is no one in the VIP room doesn't apply until after Cloud leaves it...
The culprit was hiding in the VIP room until Cloud woke up, and quietly left after Cloud did to fulfill above stated extra murders and suicide.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 25, 2017 10:51:19 GMT 12
Leaving these here before going to sleep:
Cloud confirmed the death of Tea awhen he was in B1. Cloud confirmed the death of Roberto when he was inside B2. Cloud confirmed the death of Chris when he was inside B3. Cloud confirmed the death of Zeus when he entered B4.
A "body" = a dead person. A "corpse" = a dead person.
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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 11:22:35 GMT 12
Ooh a veteran. Things are stacked against me now lol. Lets see if I can weasel my way out of this one lol
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Post by Epilos303 on Apr 25, 2017 12:04:35 GMT 12
Ehh. Any trick I can think up to mislead you seem really extra.
You have the core of the mystery down.
I didn't even get to use the "Nobody and no body" trick against you guys as a climactic last resort.
So how about, after almost 5 years, I declare this side game solved and the victory goes to the detectives.
I honestly wonder if 5 years ago Epilos had the same solution I have now lol.
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Post by Doot on Apr 25, 2017 12:18:58 GMT 12
so who was it what
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