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Post by animex75 on Apr 22, 2017 8:54:30 GMT 12
A thought entered my head after such a long amount of time had passed. The servants, accomplices who set up that grisly scene and even staked themselves to make it more convincing, were killed covertly by Rosa! As I covertly step on the stakes to force them further into the otherwise non-lethal wounds, I began killing the servants. Only...while this can explain a few of the stakes, such as Genji's and Kanon's, would that be enough to kill Kanon and Kumasawa? Furthermore, why wouldn't the servants get up or react, thus betraying that they were indeed alive and that Rosa had killed them? I must keep trying....I don't know how long I have been trapped in hell, I've lost track of time....
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Post by Segaco on Apr 22, 2017 12:05:12 GMT 12
A) They allowed Rosa to kill them. B) They were unconscious when Rosa killed them.
These could work I think
Edit: I messed up the colors rip
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Post by animex75 on Apr 23, 2017 0:03:46 GMT 12
"Perhaps they were unconscious," I thought. "Either that or they let Rosa kill them. Yeah, this could work. The thing is, why would they allow themselves to be killed? Since none of the deaths were suicide, it's not like they were suicidal." I scratch my head; what about the other one? "Unconscious....how were they made unconscious? If the injuries were not life-threatening, would they have been bleeding enough to pass out? If it was through chemical means, how was it applied to the stakes? If it was the accomplices, would they have known that Rosa was going to finish them off?
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Post by Segaco on Apr 23, 2017 4:22:51 GMT 12
"Unconscious....how were they made unconscious? If the injuries were not life-threatening, would they have been bleeding enough to pass out? If it was through chemical means, how was it applied to the stakes? If it was the accomplices, would they have known that Rosa was going to finish them off?
They fell unconscious by accident.or The accomplices stabbed themselves with the stakes and then one/two of them knocked the others out to make it more convincing. When Rosa entered, she killed the ones alive first and then killed the others.Also, about if they knew they would be killed... Not really sure, but let's say that they never thought they would be betrayed.
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Post by animex75 on Apr 23, 2017 7:28:01 GMT 12
But what of the cause of death? The stakes not being far enough into the victims to kill them, only for Rosa to covertly kill unconscious furniture is fine for Genji or Kanon. However, Nanjo and Kumasawa were not staked in areas that are inherently vital! There is but one culprit, so Rosa would have to be the immediate cause of their deaths if she is the culprit.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 23, 2017 13:08:17 GMT 12
A friend suggested this, it's weird though Rosa used the winchester to hit Kanon and Kumasawa's head as fast as she could, killing them.
One of my own: Maybe Rosa made the servants eat "pain killers" that were actually poison. After getting kicked out of the study, they carried Kinzo to the room, locked the door, stabbed themselves with the stakes, knocked some of their team out and then called Rosa. When Rosa rushed into the room, everyone died because of the "pain killers".
There's also the letter Rosa found. Rosa gave the servants letters that had poison, so when they took it, some posion was stuck on their hands. When they stabbed themselves with the stakes, the stakes had some blood on them, and took effect after being hit.
If this is considered to be suicide, just ignore it <.<
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Post by animex75 on Apr 23, 2017 18:21:32 GMT 12
This was a tough call on my part. I mean, it was the servants' action that caused their death in your hypothetical...but if Rosa led the servants to believe that the pills were part of a ruse, it would be considered her action that was the immediate cause (otherwise you could argue suicide when a servant serves tea that they poisoned; after all, it was the victims drinking the tea that caused their deaths). So you know what? I'll rule it as murder in this case.
Poison. It had to be poison. Give the furniture pain killers so they could perform the ruse better, but give them some deadly poison instead. If she had used the gun to club the servants, it surely would have left some evidence on the gun. Not to mention that, if the other survivors were following close behind, she probably wouldn't have had the time for more than just one! I rewound time and tried this. It was then that the miracle occurred! The chains that had bound me to the room shattered and I was once again free to continue my ritual. I killed the remaining pawns and was able to be revived at long last, and I learned from my time in Hell the lengths that I must go to in order to ensure that never again do I suffer that eternity of torment. The question still remains, however...did I truly escape? Or, in my madness, have I only hallucinated a way to escape...?
Well, there you have it. It may not be the answer I have in my notes, but damned if it doesn't work out. Rosa was not the culprit, but that was never the point of this game! All that was needed was for someone to find a way out, and that's what we got. I could post the actual truth, if you wish, or I could leave the catbox closed and let you and any future readers try and find the true culprit.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 23, 2017 21:40:08 GMT 12
(im surprised you didnt lose your notes after so long. When I asked if this was alive, i thought you were going to say you probably deleted the notes and then lock the thread)
Can you PM me the actual answer? <.< I was pretty sure Rosa was the culprit, somehow made the servants drink poison, and, when she entered the room the servants were, they died. Can't think of much else
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Post by animex75 on Apr 23, 2017 23:56:47 GMT 12
Nah, I have all my games saved to my Google Drive.
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Post by Segaco on Apr 24, 2017 3:41:25 GMT 12
A hint for future readers:
If it's not Rosa, there aren't really many people who could've done it. Add this with the cause of death above and you should get it probably
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